Commons:Deletion requests/Hominin photos violating FoP (part 2)

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Hominin photos violating FoP (part 2)

I had nominated several hominin images for deletion because they could not apply for the country's FoP (or were from countries that did not provide FoP at all) Commons:Deletion requests/Hominin photos violating FoP, but it appears I've missed a few. Here are the remaining from what I can see:

• File:Homo antecessor male.jpg (FoP Spain does not include building interiors)
• File:Naturalis-Homo-Erectus-Dubois.jpg (FoP Netherlands does not include museum interiors)
  •  Keep (for the moment) I have put in a request for permission with the makers of the original art. I will report on any progress made, and strongly suggest not to remove this picture pending the request, because it is hard to give permission for a picture that you cannot see for yourself. --MarcoSwart (talk) 10:57, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    • @MarcoSwart: permission must be sent by the makers/artists via email, indicated at COM:OTRS. The address is permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:23, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
• Category:Homo georgicus models is now empty
• Category:Homo rhodesiensis models is now empty
• File:Krapina Neanderthal Museum in Krapina, Croatia, Interior 2015-05-06 (1443).JPG (FOP Croatia does not include building interiors)
• File:Krapina Neanderthal Museum in Krapina, Croatia, Interior 2015-05-06 (1444).JPG (FOP Croatia does not include building interiors)
  • File:Reconstructed Krapina Neanderthals, cropped.png (derivative of above)
• File:Blackgang Chine cavemen display.jpg (taken in an amusement park, i. e. private property, and not applicable for FoP)
• File:انسان ماهر.svg (derivative of a file that just recently deleted)
• File:Comparison of Neanderthal and Homo sapiens (version 1).png (derivative of a file just recently deleted)
• File:Comparison of Neanderthal and Homo sapiens (version 2).svg (derivative of a file just recently deleted)
• File:Comparison of faces of Homo sapiens and Neanderthal.jpg (derivative of a file just recently deleted)
• File:Neanderthal (version 1).png (derivative of a file just recently deleted)
• File:Neanderthal (version 2).svg (derivative of a file just recently deleted)
• File:Wezmeh Neanderthal premolar.jpg (uses model by John Gurche)
• File:Homo rudolfensis - Naturhistorisches Museum, Braunschweig, Germany - DSC05208.JPG (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Ficha del homo georgicus. Museo Arqueológico Nacional de España.jpg (FoP Spain does not include building interiors)
• File:A special composite of extinct homo.jpg (derivative of files that were just recently deleted) -  Speedy delete contains a blatant copyvio component (File:BYBY.jpg = https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis = COM:SPEEDY) JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:24, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
• File:Qeshm Museum-Iran 2018.jpg (no FoP in Iran)
• File:Paranthropus robustus killed by leopard.jpg (no FoP in South Africa)
• File:Homme de Tautavel 02-08.jpg (FoP France bars commercial purposes, and is not allowed on Commons)
• File:Neandertaler reconst.jpg (derivative of a file just recently deleted)
• File:Sculpture of Peking Man at the Zhoukoudian Museum.jpg (FoP China does not include building interiors, but I'm not sure if there's an exception for cultural heritage)
• File:Minatogawa Man reconstruction Tokyo museum crop.jpg (FoP Japan does not include building interiors)
• File:Laetoli recreated.JPG (no FoP in the US)
• File:Bergaz.jpg (no FoP in the US)
• File:Dryopithecus laietanus (Jordi) a l'Institut Català de Paleontologia Miquel Crusafont.JPG making Category:Dryopithecus laietanus empty (FoP Spain does not include building interiors)
• File:N'Djamena jardin Toumaï zoom.jpg (no FoP in Chad)
• File:Homo Paranthropus boisei (Museo de la Evolución Humana, Burgos).jpg (no FoP in Spain)
• File:Museumfür NaturkundeHumanEvolutionParanthropus boisei.jpg (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Paranthropus boisei adult male - Smithsonian Museum of Natural History - 2012-05-17.jpg (no FoP in the US)
• File:Paranthropus boisei.JPG (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Paranthropus boisei cropped.jpg (as a derivative of the above file)
• File:Homo Sapiens lifting Rock Reconstruction - Museum Neandertal.jpg (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Pelze und Felle im Neandertalmuseum - (44).jpg (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Pelze und Felle im Neandertalmuseum 2020 - (07).jpg (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Pelze und Felle im Neandertalmuseum - (03).jpg (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Museum Mensch und Natur 13.jpg (FoP Germany does not include building interiors)
• File:Leptoptilos robustus.jpeg (FoP Japan does not include building interiors)
• File:Close up of an Australopithecus model in a museum.jpg (FoP Serbia does not include building interiors)

Discussion

What is a "fop"? North8000 (talk) 12:21, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

@North8000: See Commons:FOP (it stands for Freedom of Panorama). Basically, the artist of a sculpture retains all rights on the work, including derivatives of the sculpture (such as photos). Likewise, the photographer needs permission from the artist to be able to release it under a Commons-applicable license, unless the photo was taken in a country which has Freedom of Panorama laws, which allow the photographer to release a photo of a sculpture under a Commons-applicable license without the permission of the artist of sculpture in specific scenarios. The above images are not applicable for FoP protections in the respective countries they were photographed in, and so cannot be used with a Commons-friendly license Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 04:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

@Dunkleosteus77: Thanks for that thorough explanation! North8000 (talk) 18:19, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

•  Delete all per nom by Dunkleosteus77. But, most especially,  Speedy delete File:A special composite of extinct homo.jpg as one of its component files, "File:BYBY", was speedily deleted due to obvious copyvio (in the log, grabbed from "https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis"). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC) Yes, please delete as soon as possible Beat Ruest (talk) 18:30, 27 August 2021 (UTC) (author)
• Regarding China, per talk page of COM:China, the 2020 amendment of copyright law of China will allow FOP usages for "in door artworks", no idea if this can be extended as any means of "building interiors" or not. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:07, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
  • And not sure why the nominator didn't notify the uploaders, I did so except one commented above. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
• As an uploader of one of these images, I must say that it's certainly hard to understand local FoP laws when visiting. However, I am strongly in favor of following the law: if images do not comply, away they go. And I'm glad that someone understands all the twists and turns of FoP! with best wishes, Daderot (talk) 15:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
•  Info one of the images was subjected to deletion due to same no Spanish FOP for indoors rationale at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Homo antecessor male.jpg. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep File:Sculpture of Peking Man at the Zhoukoudian Museum.jpg per COM:CRT/China, although the statement was correct at time of nomination. Presumably delete the rest, though I haven't researched them and am accordingly not comfortable voting. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 11:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
•  Delete It is not a work of art but a scientific reconstruction, it is under copyright: the author's approval is absolutely necessary. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
  • New  Comment Re: File:Sculpture of Peking Man at the Zhoukoudian Museum.jpg. @Dunkleosteus77 and Liuxinyu970226: , while Chinese FOP now includes public indoors, the main caveat on Chinese FOP is that attribution is required. Who was the artist behind that taxidermy? If the artist name cannot be provided, then that image fails FOP China and must be deleted as an anonymous work (works by unknown artists, sculptors, architects etc.). See also Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Murals in Beijing Subway stations. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:22, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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Deleted: Deleted all, possibly no FOP in most countries, but in addition same argument as Commons:Deletion requests/Hominin photos violating FoP, ‘’Delete due to artist copyright, doubtful they were all signed over’’. --Elly (talk) 09:29, 26 October 2021 (UTC)